recently I’ve been making a splash on some of my Facebook friends’ comments which have been both for and against Obamacare. one of them led to a revealing conversation with what I will call “the opposition”. a little background: one friend had posted “All I can say is the government better not screw up/over my health care. I SO can’t wait for Jan 20, 2013!!!!!!!”, to which a fella named David Garcia replied “Obama 2012, hell yeah”, and I then sarcastically replied “David, put a “go to” after that comma and a “!” before that yeah.”. David Garcia then sent me a message and we went back and forth – here is the full, unedited diatribe (non-family language warning).
Between You and David Garcia
March 22 at 1:42am Report
no home boi, you got it all wrong. We The People put the ‘go to’ hell message to Bush/McCain/Palin and the Republican’t-Tea Bagging-Neo Confederate ideology a year ago. Talk to me when the Repubs develop some ideas besides tax cuts. The fear mongering and misleading propaganda that the GOP throws out there has an expiration date. You guys may take some seats in the midterm, but if there are no ideas by the GOP and you run clowns like Palin, your fantasy of defeating Obama is in great peril.
Calen Michael Fretts March 22 at 1:56am
I’ve got news for you bro… I’m not a Republican either. Both parties are totally screwed. Just because you don’t like Obama doesn’t mean there’s an R next to your name.
March 22 at 2:07am Report
Well then you are shit outta luck, cuz there is no one with your view point that will win elections. And I run into people like you all the time that claim they are not repubs which is merely a cope out. I don’t buy your smoke and mirrors because you would never support a liberal or any progressive position. And notice how I included tea baggers and neo confederates, both of which are derogatory names for conservatives and they don’t necessarily have to wear the republican crown. And before you claim not to be of the far right persuasion remember not to join political groups like Michelle Bachman, Peter Schiff, Ron Paul, and the like.
Calen Michael Fretts March 22 at 8:12pm
how is it a “cope out”? no, I would never support a progressive position, because the progressive position is statism, which I am diametrically opposed to. you need to learn the difference between Republican and conservative, brother. you’ve got your liberal talking points down from Olbermann but I don’t think you quite understand them. you can say “tea baggers and neo confederates” or whatever childish words you think are insulting, but again, just by your words you show that you have no idea of the difference between neocon and conservative.
anyways, I hope you get to meet your idol Obama someday and he magically heals you from your pompous attitude or maybe gives you Change superpowers. that is if you didn’t have a love heart attack at first sight, seeing as how you go so far as to create “Obama-ize Yourself” pictures of yourself and put them on Facebook. that’s actually really hilarious man, thanks for the laughs.
March 22 at 9:42pm Report
Dude don’t get your panties in bunch, it’s politics. If you can’t take it don’t dish it, remember you are the one who called me out so don’t take it personal. You fail to understand my plight, I enjoy greatly getting righty’s mad, but back to the discussion… So you’re not a tea bagger, you’re not a republican, and you’re not a neo-con but you are a conservative, ohhh I get it…Notice how all these groups are conservative but different, I am shamefully sorry for confusing such vastly different factions within the Conservative movement. Nevertheless the label game is besides the point, because my assertions about you are all the same. Because the republican’s, the tea baggers, and the neo cons all vote and think the same way. And oh, I’m sorry for confusing neo-cons with regular conservatives but I will nonetheless argue that they are all the same. Conservatism is what is pitched to the American people, but neoconservatism is what they get. Conservative Republicans always say they favor protecting our civil liberties but some how they always become Neo-Conservatives and mock our civil liberties as an unnecessary restriction on government power. Conservative Republicans say they favor a smaller, less intrusive government but somehow when elected they become Neo-Conservatives who Are Willing to spend money (and expand government reach) without restraint, provided it helps them further their agenda. Again I am sorry for confussing the labels, what I meant to say is that tea bagger, conservative, and neoconservative are all the same, they are just at different stages in conservative evolutionary spectrum. Tea baggers is the misguided guppy where no real ideas come to fruition, conservatism is the vision that one grasps for and aspires to be, and neo-conservatism is the final stage where they gain power and abuse such power.
Anyways, regarding your humorous tid-bit about me meeting the great Obama with his ‘magical’ powers. I hope you are not referencing Limbaugh with his Messiah talk and Barrack the magic negro mantra. And stop the projection of your desperate need for a leader. You guys are in such dire need of leadership that you project that love fest on progressives, I know you want to Reagan-ize yourself but he’s dead and Sarah Palin just won’t do the trick. I think you’re version of Olberman, Glenn Beck, has fallen for the Obama-ize posters as well. He has himself, some other neo-cons, and some of the founding fathers all obama-ized on posters on his show’s set. But more importantly, don’t call me out for my political apps on facebook and act like you don’t ‘go as far’ as to have wall posts about socialism and other political imagery on your very profile.
But I cannot believe that anyone would be against social justice, compassion for fellow human beings, and progressive ideas which have shaped this nation into a more perfect nation. Progressive ideas like National Parks, abolishment of slavery, Fiat monetary system, women’s right to vote, labor laws, social security, medicare/medicaid, civil rights, landing a man on the moon, and now health care reform all of which makes this country great and stronger. How can you neglect people for the human right of living a healthy life. The abolishment of recession, no more pre-existing conditions, expanding coverage to most Americans, and allowing young Americans to be covered under their parents plans until they are 26. The bill’s not perfect. Costs would be controlled much more efficiently with a strong public option, but change is gradual. To close, I just do not understand your Me First Skrew Everyone Else attitude.
Keep ‘em coming, I hope you, Beck, Bohner, and the rest of you tea bagging neo confederates have ended your cry-fest and “end of the world, grab your guns” talk in the midst of change…But I permit you to keep your verbal diatribe coming my way because it’s quite entertaining. I bid you farewell homeboy.
PS- Enjoy that socialist government take-over of Healthcare
Calen Michael Fretts March 22 at 11:59pm
I’ll grant you that many people who call themselves conservatives are actually neocons, but this time you’ve bit off more than you know. I am willing to criticize Bush as equally as I am Obama – and yes, he was about equally as bad (although it at least took him a couple terms to get to that point). you clearly don’t understand the difference between “conservative”, “neoconservative”, and “Republican” (and “republican” for that matter). it’s okay, many don’t. but if you’re going to try to talk like the big dogs, you should learn.
the best thing about people like you and me is that people like you don’t know how to argue against people like me. I don’t listen to Limbaugh so I’m not familiar with those apparent quotes of his. I don’t watch Glenn Beck either, so thus continues the iconoclasm. McCain wasn’t and Palin isn’t anywhere near the candidate I would choose for the job. Reagan isn’t even my hero, so I’m afraid none of your completely original assertions hold water. I called you out for the hilarious pictures of you on the Obama “HOPE” poster. you’re just another brownshirt Obama zombie.
even more hilarious is your assertion that a “Fiat monetary system” is a good thing. first of all, the system isn’t named after the car, so there’s no reason to capitalize it. second, if you think that’s a good thing, you obviously either have no idea what it is or you’re delusional. the inclusion of things like “National Parks” and “landing a man on the moon” beside those other things you mentioned is even more hilarious. social security, medicare, and medicaid are bankrupting this country, and this new health care “reform” is only going to accelerate that path. someday if you ever wise up you will realize that liberalism is a no-brainer (it’s for people with no brain).
rock on dude.
PS – enjoy nullification.
PPS – I know you don’t know what that means. Google or Dictionary.com should be able to help.
PPPS – while you’re at it, a spelling and grammar class might be helpful too. I’d give you a discount: only 1 gold ounce/hour.
and then I did not receive a reply, because apparently he has been kicked off Facebook (his profile is no more). I didn’t report him or anything, as I was actually entertained by his antics.. but I can’t say he didn’t deserve it.